Global #JuniperSummit Preview: Demanding More From Your Network

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0:06 welcome everybody it's great to be here

0:08 on linkedin live mike marcelin with

0:10 juniper networks here um so

0:13 next week as you saw in the intro is the

0:15 juniper networks global summit it's may

0:18 11th so mark your calendars uh and and

0:20 please do register and so today i'm live

0:23 with an all-star panel of industry

0:26 voices to talk about what this shift

0:29 from um

0:30 the old networking toward an experienced

0:33 first networking really means

0:35 we'll also be monitoring the chat i see

0:37 some people logging in and saying hi so

0:39 that's great so as we go feel free to

0:41 drop any questions or comments and i'll

0:44 be kind of keeping an eye on that and

0:46 hopefully bringing some of those in

0:48 so without further ado let's introduce

0:50 our panel of guests first up we have

0:53 zias caravala

0:54 he's the principal analyst at ck

0:56 research zias welcome to the stage and

0:58 maybe tell us a little bit about your

1:00 current research areas and what you're

1:01 looking at

1:03 uh sure thanks mike for having me and uh

1:06 actually i said hello in the linkedin

1:08 thing too so uh i i'm trying to monitor

1:10 that and talk about this now as far as

1:12 research covers goes as you know i'm not

1:14 a typical analyst that has you know a

1:16 single coverage area that i live and die

1:18 with rest of my life i tend to focus

1:20 more on the emerging technologies that

1:23 are changing the landscape of

1:25 communications and everything and

1:27 security and so

1:28 you know right now you know a few years

1:30 ago i didn't really cover a lot of wind

1:32 but of course now we have this

1:33 transition to sd-wan going on i'm

1:35 looking a lot at

1:37 the impact that artificial intelligence

1:39 has on network and security operations i

1:41 think that's a pretty fascinating field

1:44 some of the other areas that i'm looking

1:45 at right now are

1:47 what's going on in wireless industry

1:49 with both 5g wi-fi 6 6e wi-fi 7's coming

1:54 and so and you know just from an overall

1:56 perspective the role of the network has

1:58 changed itself right this is something

1:59 you and i have talked about where if you

2:01 think of

2:02 uh businesses as they go through the

2:04 digital transformation plans uh they're

2:06 adopting a lot of network-centric

2:08 technologies mobility cloud iot even ai

2:11 things like that and so the network

2:12 itself is playing a bigger role in how

2:15 companies operate so that's a you know a

2:17 quick intro on how i look at the world

2:19 thanks yes and for those of you that

2:21 don't follow zias please do because as

2:23 he said he's got probably the most

2:25 comprehensive view of all of those

2:27 different areas um and and can really

2:30 see patterns that are emerging across

2:31 them so see it's it's great to have you

2:33 here today

2:34 um

2:35 we have nubra kenoi uh she is a senior

2:38 network engineer at google fiber so uh

2:40 newport why don't you introduce yourself

2:44 hi everyone thanks mike for the

2:46 introduction uh i work as a senior

2:48 network engineer in google fiber my role

2:51 is more focused towards expansion of

2:53 google fiber just to tie in google fiber

2:56 is expanding in

2:59 like more market cities now and

3:02 i am more focused towards automating the

3:05 g fiber network so that's again uh

3:08 that's something that we have been

3:09 trying and doing to do uh trying to do

3:13 and i have been a juniper ambassador for

3:16 more than six years now so it's been a

3:18 fun ride definitely

3:20 and uh the other thing that i want to

3:23 highlight is uh

3:26 uh

3:27 we have been like uh trying to uh in

3:31 like do a lot of

3:33 trying to do different things than what

3:35 the typical service writer does so

3:37 that's something that i would just want

3:38 to highlight what g fiber is doing and

3:40 what i am doing

3:43 great well thank you it's great to have

3:45 you here today and looking forward to

3:46 our conversation

3:47 um and

3:48 last but not least we have stephon fawan

3:51 uh he's the principal owner of shortest

3:53 path first stephon welcome and maybe

3:55 give the audience a brief intro on you

3:57 sure thanks mark mike really excited to

3:59 be here i've got my juniper swag here at

4:01 the ready um but yeah super excited um

4:05 you know my background is i've been

4:06 working with juniper for about 24 years

4:08 i think my first exposure was back in

4:10 1998. um you know i worked for a lot of

4:14 other folks for many years and about

4:15 three years ago decided to start my own

4:17 juniper reseller company so i do uh our

4:20 primary function is to uh resell

4:22 hardware and software and then we also

4:24 do consulting and network architecture

4:26 those types of things um and uh yeah

4:29 i've also been a juniper ambassador for

4:32 roughly the last six years as well i

4:33 think i joined around the same time as

4:36 newper

4:37 and really excited i'm really super

4:39 excited about the sessions next week so

4:41 i'm looking forward to seeing you guys

4:42 all there

4:43 that's great and for those of you

4:44 keeping track uh 1998 was the year

4:46 juniper launched its fir or shipped its

4:48 first product so stefan is an og juniper

4:51 supporter

4:52 it's great to have your perspective

4:54 throughout throughout the years as the

4:56 industry has changed and as juniper has

4:57 changed actually

4:59 like i was uh my pre-analyst days i was

5:01 actually working for a reseller myself

5:03 back then who actually we actually were

5:05 funded partially by juniper extreme

5:07 networks and so we we moved a lot of

5:09 juniper gear back in the day too

5:11 so i was working at a company called

5:12 unet and we were i think one of the

5:14 first flagship companies and this was

5:17 even before the flagship m40 product

5:19 came out so we were testing code on

5:22 olives back then for any of you guys who

5:24 remember those olives

5:25 yeah that's right olive was the original

5:28 version of uh of junos essential it

5:30 became junos right yeah

5:32 absolutely these are the interesting

5:33 stories for me because i was just in

5:35 college

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5:41 good answer good answer um

5:44 okay well so

5:46 kind of interesting as we just did a

5:47 quick uh journey down memory lane let's

5:50 fast forward now to where things are

5:52 going and you know one of the things

5:54 that i know you all have heard juniper

5:55 talk about and many others have as well

5:57 is this concept of experience first

5:59 networking and i'll give kind of a brief

6:02 definition of what that means from our

6:03 perspective but then i would love to

6:05 hear uh what all of you kind of take

6:07 away from that notion and what you're

6:09 seeing uh out in the market but just in

6:12 brief experience first networking is

6:13 just an acknowledgement that you know

6:15 the the network and where things need to

6:17 go is not about you know boxes and

6:19 speeds and feeds it's ultimately about

6:22 how

6:23 the users of the network experience it

6:25 because i can tell you the network is up

6:26 and running but if you're having a bad

6:28 experience then that doesn't matter to

6:30 you and so our focus it's really our

6:32 true north as a company is really about

6:35 kind of simplifying that experience for

6:37 the network operator the people that

6:39 build and run networks every day and

6:41 then creating a differentiated uh and

6:44 optimized end user experience and we'll

6:47 get into a little bit about how we do

6:48 that with ai and with automation and

6:51 other tools but that's really what it's

6:53 all about and it's it's really thinking

6:55 beyond the network itself to what the

6:57 network enables

6:59 so with that kind of as a backdrop uh

7:01 maybe i'll just go around the horn real

7:03 quick and see us start with you just you

7:04 know um what what does that notion of

7:07 experience first networking mean to you

7:09 um and how does it get manifested in

7:11 some of your research areas and in the

7:13 many people that you talk to yeah well i

7:16 love the topic of experience first

7:18 networking because it orients very well

7:20 uh with with my research in fact uh the

7:23 the real

7:24 kind of driving

7:26 i guess uh focus for my research is

7:28 about how

7:29 businesses are changing experiences

7:31 right so it's very pretty well

7:32 documented that customer experience is

7:35 now uh the number one brand

7:36 differentiator for a lot of companies

7:38 you know businesses that offer a great

7:39 customer experience tend to thrive they

7:41 can become market leaders ones that

7:43 don't fail right and there's another

7:46 side to the cx coin though which is

7:48 employee experience and often companies

7:50 forget about that but you can't really

7:52 offer a best-in-class customer

7:54 experience unless you have a

7:55 best-in-class employee experience and so

7:58 this concept of experience versus

8:00 networking is how you leverage the

8:01 network

8:02 to offer to be able to create both

8:04 experience you know employment and

8:06 customer experience and i think the one

8:08 thing is juniper that's where it's

8:09 helped juniper is i i used to think of

8:11 juniper historically as a collection of

8:14 best to breed stuff

8:16 right you had good products but you

8:18 didn't really have that overarching kind

8:20 of vision and lighthouse to road to

8:23 but it's actually given juniper that and

8:26 if you look at a lot of the acquisitions

8:27 that juniper's made with appstra and

8:29 128t and mist and things like that

8:32 those all are additive to that

8:34 experience first networking strategy and

8:36 so i think it's it's been good for

8:39 juniper because it obviously creates

8:41 that focal point for the company and how

8:43 to build your products and you know if

8:45 it adds that experience for networking

8:46 do it and if it doesn't then you got to

8:47 question it um but it's also helpful i

8:50 think drive your acquisition strategy

8:52 your product portfolio which is

8:53 ultimately then good for your customers

8:55 as well

8:56 yeah thank you for that zeus and you're

8:58 absolutely right it's been uh it's been

9:00 certainly been a catalyst for us to get

9:01 to get to get on this journey some of

9:03 these amazing acquisitions that we've

9:05 made so it's an upper let me let me

9:07 pivot over to you because you talked a

9:08 little bit at the beginning about how

9:09 google fiber thinks about things a

9:11 little bit differently as a service

9:12 provider so imagine some of that

9:14 different thinking is around um what it

9:17 takes to run the network and the

9:19 experience of users of the network so

9:21 give us your take on experience versus

9:22 networking

9:23 yeah as a service provider engineer uh

9:26 my in my opinion i believe experience

9:28 first networking is more about again

9:30 reiterating the same thing that you uh

9:33 vs and you mentioned it's more about

9:35 modern customer experience like

9:37 delivering modern customer experience

9:39 but at the same time adding

9:40 simplification for a network engineer to

9:42 be able to build upon or you know

9:44 maintain the network uh being from the

9:47 service provider industry there are lots

9:49 of uh

9:50 like the network is already pre-built

9:53 when there was uh nothing sort of

9:55 automation like there was no automation

9:56 back then right so there is a lot of

9:58 legacy stuff flying around so it's a

10:00 slow road for a service provider to take

10:02 that like uh to automate and all those

10:05 stuff but uh

10:07 most of the uh things are driven by

10:09 customers now especially during the

10:11 corporate era everything is fast tracked

10:12 right so customers have started

10:15 demanding more from the service pro from

10:17 their service providers and also from

10:19 the network so uh because of that uh

10:22 service writers have started take having

10:25 that vision he uh started uh to see that

10:28 vision of you know implementing

10:30 automation or ai in the network i i

10:32 believe uh juniper

10:34 saw that quite a qui from quite some

10:37 time like maybe 10 years back since they

10:39 started their company or because even

10:42 with the legacy uh hardware that we have

10:44 in our network we have that thing called

10:46 as on box automation even a person even

10:49 if a service provider cannot bring in

10:50 something uh some uh like cannot develop

10:52 ai or something with or there's lots of

10:55 investment in that right so uh with on

10:58 box automation a lot of lots of

11:00 possibilities open up and kudos to

11:02 juniper to make that uh for making that

11:05 possible

11:06 yeah thank you

11:07 um and stefan i definitely want to turn

11:09 it to you because zeus mentioned some of

11:11 the acquisitions that i know you've had

11:12 particular experience with

11:14 one of at least one of the acquisitions

11:16 that we made a few years back which was

11:18 missed so give us your take on

11:19 experience first networking and how

11:20 you're seeing that play out in the real

11:22 world well yeah i'll talk a little bit

11:23 about all of those things actually i

11:25 think you know

11:26 i'm total agreement with the rest of the

11:28 speakers here that you know to me um

11:31 this is all about

11:32 improving the overall customer

11:34 experience um and simplifying um the

11:38 network to the extent that we can and i

11:39 mean let's face it

11:41 over the last decade networks have

11:42 gotten really really complex um and zeus

11:46 had mentioned a couple of the different

11:48 acquisitions there's 128t there's miss

11:51 and then we've got abstra and really in

11:53 in all three of those regards

11:55 i think juniper has really made some

11:57 brilliant um acquisitions here that have

12:00 done wonders to simplify the network um

12:03 you know so for example um if we anybody

12:05 that's played around with evpn in the

12:07 data center um you know and has done any

12:10 of that you know it's it's quite

12:12 cumbersome it's very a manual um yeah

12:15 and this is this isn't just a juniper

12:16 thing this is across the board all the

12:18 vendors right you know configuring evpn

12:20 in the data center is a very complex um

12:22 subject matter but um anybody who gets a

12:25 chance to spend time with abstra will

12:27 realize how

12:28 quickly it is to build a green field or

12:30 even incorporate a brownfield network

12:32 into that environment and then you know

12:34 manage not only the underlay but the

12:36 overlay um similarly we've got missed um

12:39 and it's not just about the things that

12:41 miss brings the table in terms of like

12:43 troubleshooting but the fact that

12:45 we don't no longer have to deploy um

12:47 wireless controllers in our environments

12:49 and um being able to completely bring

12:52 that into the cloud and manage it from

12:54 the cloud dramatically simplifies um the

12:57 overall experience of the end user who's

12:59 configuring it managing it um and then

13:02 you know facilitating the

13:03 troubleshooting aspects of those

13:05 um yeah okay go on and on but yeah

13:08 yeah i just want to touch on the point

13:10 that new products that i i actually

13:12 didn't i mentioned to when i was talking

13:14 about experiences was you brought up the

13:16 engineer experience and you know

13:19 stephanie brought up the point of

13:20 narrating has gotten a lot more complex

13:23 and so the point i brought up is reliant

13:25 on networks more

13:26 where to do more but yet networking's

13:28 gotten more complicated you know much

13:30 more complicated and mike i think one of

13:33 the aspects i think of every juniper

13:35 acquisition

13:36 that you've made isn't just kind of a

13:38 better mousetrap it's a fundamental

13:40 rethink on the operational side of

13:42 running the network and that's a market

13:45 different than kind of juniper

13:46 acquisition in the past where you maybe

13:48 look for the better you know the better

13:50 widget but didn't really think about the

13:51 operational side that's a that's a huge

13:53 part of experience first network into my

13:55 mind

13:57 hit it on the head i mean from mist

13:59 which obviously you know look all

14:01 vendors offer some degree of automation

14:03 and we do as well ours is informed more

14:05 by ai to to make that operator

14:07 experience even more proactive and

14:10 self-driving um and then you add to the

14:13 fact that you know we are gathering end

14:15 user client data at a rate that no one

14:18 else can even keep up with so that we

14:20 see troubles or impacts on that end user

14:22 experience faster than anyone else can

14:25 so those those two

14:27 taken together you know really allow us

14:29 to deliver on this vision of experience

14:30 first networking so let me pivot now

14:33 newport you mentioned something in the

14:34 last um

14:36 in your last comment about you know uh

14:38 end users are starting to to demand more

14:40 from the network

14:42 and that's very interesting because that

14:43 is the theme of our summit next week um

14:46 and let me give you a little bit on why

14:48 that's the theme you may think oh that's

14:50 just a marketing theme demand more from

14:51 your network sounds great whatever um

14:53 actually

14:54 it's an acknowledgement that you know

14:57 people have worked with legacy

14:59 incumbents for a long time

15:01 and when you do that you kind of just

15:04 grow to accept things because they've

15:05 always been the way they've always been

15:07 and you may not know that actually

15:09 there's a different or better way now

15:11 you can imagine for us

15:13 coming in and wanting to make sure that

15:15 people understand it actually

15:17 there is actually a new way to go about

15:19 operating the network there's a new way

15:21 to deliver differentiated experiences to

15:23 your end users

15:25 so part of our task is kind of to shake

15:27 people a little bit so that they can get

15:29 out of their current reality

15:30 step back and realize that something

15:32 better exists so that's what demand more

15:36 means and that's what we hope the summit

15:38 next week will provide people is a

15:39 different point of view

15:41 across all parts of the network uh and

15:43 all the outcomes that the network

15:44 delivers as uh you know a new way to

15:47 think about um how how to go about

15:49 delivering those outcomes so with with

15:52 that as a bit of a backdrop i'd love to

15:54 get everyone's uh point of view on on

15:56 that and why don't we turn it around and

15:58 stefan i'll start with you just kind of

16:00 what is what is demand demand more from

16:02 your network what does that conjure up

16:04 in you

16:05 uh i mean i think that it means being

16:07 you know having the end user being able

16:09 to essentially demand that they're

16:11 getting more value out of that network

16:14 right um

16:15 and you know

16:16 kind of dovetailing into the whole use

16:19 of ai and bringing that into the picture

16:21 we were you know previously talking

16:23 about that with the mist um i can talk

16:26 speaking from experience here um i have

16:29 a customer that loves miss and just the

16:31 ability for

16:32 being able to use the marvis ai to do

16:34 that proactive and predictive analytics

16:37 um

16:38 you know it's one thing when say like an

16:39 entire

16:40 floor the wireless goes down those are

16:42 typically a little bit easier to

16:44 troubleshoot that means like you know

16:45 your ap is down or something along those

16:47 lines but it's a lot more difficult when

16:49 everybody else on the floor is is is

16:52 working but you've got just one

16:53 particular client that can't connect for

16:55 whatever reason

16:57 and this one customer that i have that

16:59 deployed missed several years ago

17:01 they used to spend days sometimes

17:03 troubleshooting some of these issues um

17:05 and so when we talk about demanding more

17:07 freemium network it's like what is the

17:08 typical troubleshooting process like you

17:10 know the data's already there um

17:14 the net network operator would already

17:15 be going through that in a very manual

17:18 process now we're talking about bringing

17:19 ai

17:20 and analyzing that data and trying to

17:23 identify what's the the root cause of

17:25 that particular and so this customer

17:27 that used to spend days in most cases

17:29 now um they're notified that there's an

17:32 issue before they're even aware of it or

17:35 before an end user is complaining um and

17:38 and often most cases they're able to fix

17:40 or resolve the problem in in an hour or

17:43 less and oftentimes it's much much less

17:45 than that

17:46 so just being able to demand and get

17:48 more value out of the network

17:50 yeah for sure new newport you you

17:52 touched on this already may go a little

17:53 bit deeper about what that means to you

17:55 as a network engineer what you think it

17:57 means to your end customers even

17:59 yeah so again i'll i'll reiterate a few

18:02 of the things uh

18:04 because of covet everything is fast

18:06 track right so people everyone has

18:08 started uh using internet not unlike

18:11 before right the the internet traffic

18:13 users has kind of exponentially grown so

18:16 because of that even the enterprise

18:19 customers have started realizing the

18:21 importance of increase uh

18:23 back then they were just happy with you

18:25 know maybe having two or a couple of

18:27 redundant lines internet connection and

18:30 they would manually fail over whenever

18:31 they see any traffic loss or a loss of

18:34 connection but now they understand the

18:36 revenue loss that incurs whenever there

18:39 is any packet loss or loss of connection

18:42 so they they are kind of demanding

18:44 sd-wan from like the basic demand has

18:47 become azure and for most of the

18:48 enterprise customers and uh again

18:51 juniper comes in and helps us with that

18:54 uh in terms of uh like providing

18:57 like juniper's 1280 is a complete

18:59 package in in those terms you know it it

19:02 has in the security features which

19:04 customers kind of demands the sassy

19:06 model right the other thing is cloud

19:08 native support that again juniper's 1280

19:10 has and the lg van is obviously there

19:13 with 128 t so uh

19:16 juniper is kind of helping us as we want

19:18 to cater to their customers and which

19:20 that is what i really love about uh

19:23 juniper and the

19:24 the partnership that we have with

19:26 jennifer

19:28 thank you nooper so yes i'm going to

19:29 turn it a little bit for you which is um

19:31 because you you look across the industry

19:33 so comprehensively do you agree with the

19:35 premise i had that sometimes you just

19:37 get embedded in how things are just are

19:40 and you don't step out of that and and

19:42 what what can be unleashed or opened up

19:44 when you do

19:46 oh

19:47 yeah mike i mean

19:48 there's legacy thinking that we have has

19:50 has to go away and i think we have to

19:52 rethink what's possible

19:54 leveraging the network opens up so many

19:56 more possibilities right and and i do

19:58 think companies are expecting more from

20:00 it i was talking with somebody who ran a

20:02 you know a hotel in new york did and

20:04 they were saying that the

20:06 quality of network to the guests is a

20:08 big reason why you know people stay

20:10 there or not right if things it used to

20:12 be if things didn't work we just sort of

20:14 in fact i remember talking from somebody

20:15 at a school system where their wi-fi had

20:16 been down for this was years ago for a

20:18 week and

20:19 teachers didn't say anything because

20:21 they just assumed that's the way

20:22 wireless was right that that's not the

20:24 case anymore we moved everything to the

20:26 cloud we do everything on mobile and if

20:28 the network's not there our businesses

20:30 can't function

20:32 right and so i think from that

20:34 perspective we do expect more from our

20:36 network because it's the engine that

20:37 drives our business today in fact i

20:39 think companies used to almost define

20:41 themselves by their compute

20:42 infrastructure right you think i'm an

20:44 ibm shop right i think we're doing more

20:46 so from a network perspective because

20:49 it's the thing that connects

20:51 all of us together uh you know both

20:53 people to people people to applications

20:55 and it's the thing that allows us to

20:57 actually get work done especially in

20:58 this era that we're going to of hybrid

21:00 work right where we have people

21:01 scattered all over the place now so

21:03 we're leveraging the network more than

21:04 ever and i and i think that

21:06 there's so much innovation happening in

21:08 the network in fact i've seen more

21:10 innovation in networking in the past

21:12 five years than i probably saw the

21:13 previous 20 right so there's a lot of

21:15 exciting stuff going on but we we do

21:17 need to open up our minds and of you

21:19 know how to uh you know to use the

21:21 network in different ways that we did

21:23 before

21:24 yeah well so let's let's look a little

21:26 bit forward obviously over the past

21:29 decade we've seen a ton of change um

21:31 right and 21c is maybe over in the past

21:33 five years from sas and sdn and now ai

21:36 zero trust all of these things that

21:37 we're all now you know right in the

21:39 thick of so let's look forward a bit and

21:41 get out your crystal balls you know for

21:43 the next decade of networking or even

21:45 just the next few years what do you

21:46 think will really shape

21:48 those next few years that's you know

21:50 either here today or just around the

21:51 corner uh newport let's maybe start with

21:53 you

21:54 uh in my belief it will

21:57 uh it will be more about in uh intent

21:59 based networking and self healing

22:01 networks just like self driving cars

22:03 right self healing networks will be the

22:05 future

22:06 because

22:07 i'm gonna be like i keep mentioning

22:09 covered because service product industry

22:11 has changed because of covert so uh

22:15 everything has changed from past two

22:16 years and i'm not talking uh like the

22:18 intent based networking i'm when i

22:21 mention intern based networking it's not

22:22 about that we'll be seeing it

22:25 in next 10 years but probably in next

22:27 couple of years we'll see that as a

22:29 new trend and uh something that has been

22:32 that that will be adopted by many of the

22:35 uh service providers

22:37 got it sophon what does your crystal

22:39 ball tell you

22:40 uh well i think we're just going to keep

22:42 moving forward with uh you know the

22:44 network automation and just kind of

22:46 looking back

22:48 you know 10 years ago

22:50 um you know we were we were basically

22:52 automating compute and we were

22:54 automating storage and we were able to

22:56 spin up those resources in relatively

22:58 short order but the networking piece was

23:01 always the long pole and you it still

23:02 would require some type of coordination

23:05 with a network engineer or a network

23:06 operator to you know stitch points

23:09 together

23:10 um and we've been talking about

23:11 software-defined networking those types

23:13 of things for the last several years um

23:16 and it did seem kind of like

23:18 a distant you know thing that was you

23:22 know it was going to take some time to

23:23 get there but to i'm actually really

23:26 amazed i'm having more and more

23:27 conversation with customers that they

23:29 are actually deploying automation the

23:32 apis are really well established now

23:34 people are getting exposure to it

23:36 and so it's a really really exciting

23:38 time to be able to spin up the

23:40 networking element at the same pace and

23:43 at the same you know

23:44 velocity that we're spinning up compute

23:46 and storage

23:47 and so i think that trend is just going

23:49 to continue kind of dovetailing on what

23:51 newpers said um self-healing being able

23:53 to

23:54 automate the troubleshooting um i just

23:56 think the future is very very bright for

23:58 networking

24:00 and zias i know you're always looking

24:01 around corners so what do you see

24:03 yeah i think one of the the big changes

24:05 that we'll see in mike is the the sort

24:07 of erosion of these networking silos

24:10 historically even when you talk to

24:12 customers right they have a person that

24:14 runs the wam they have the data center

24:15 network they have the wi-fi network

24:17 right they have the campus network but

24:19 when it comes to experiences the

24:21 application that you're using doesn't

24:23 care about these networking silos

24:25 there's there's just one network

24:27 and i think i know that's a direction

24:29 that juniper is trying to head down but

24:30 more and more i think we will get to

24:32 that point where we start thinking of

24:34 the network as a single entity and not

24:35 these discrete silos because that's in a

24:37 lot of ways that's what gets in the way

24:39 of experiences because you may have

24:41 invested in one part of the network but

24:43 not the other and and i do want to touch

24:45 on the ai aspect of it for people

24:47 watching this i know there's a lot of

24:48 sort of fear and trepidation out there

24:50 about networking uh and ai will it take

24:53 my job but will it not i look at

24:55 artificial intelligence as in this

24:58 you know both nuclear system mention

25:00 this concept of a self-driving network

25:02 or fully autonomous network look that's

25:04 that's a ways down the road that's like

25:06 the concept of the self-driving car

25:08 right would anybody get into a car today

25:10 that's got no driver and no controls

25:12 probably not well maybe elon musk fight

25:15 but there's outside of him probably not

25:17 right but there's a bunch of ai being

25:18 built into cars today parallel park

25:20 assist lane changer things that make us

25:22 better drivers similarly with networking

25:25 i know a lot of things that mrs brought

25:26 to market isn't really meant to replace

25:29 the engineer but to make them a better

25:30 engineer there's not an engineer i know

25:33 that's out there that likes to spend a

25:34 quarter of their time doing wi-fi

25:36 troubleshooting but that's what you're

25:38 doing today there's a lot of network

25:39 engineer i know that likes to spend

25:40 another 25 of the time updating vlans

25:43 but that's what you're doing today all

25:45 of those heavy lifting and manual tasks

25:47 can be automated and i'll leave you with

25:49 this for network engineers watching this

25:51 if you're doing things today that do not

25:53 make your resume more strategic don't do

25:56 them find a way to automate them out of

25:58 your job and ai is the key to doing that

26:01 that's incredible advice yes thank you

26:03 for that okay we got to wrap up we're

26:05 almost at the top of the hour let's do

26:06 one last question let's do it on

26:08 enlightening round mode so all of you

26:11 all have seen the the agenda for the

26:13 juniper summit so just give me one

26:16 session that you're most excited about

26:17 on the summit agenda

26:19 um

26:21 yes please don't worry yeah so being a

26:24 service writer engineer i am most most

26:27 excited excited about sassy

26:30 uh i think there's one fashion or a

26:32 session on sassy and beyond and the

26:34 other one uh

26:36 for van automation so that's something

26:38 i'm really looking forward to and

26:40 listening in their perspective uh what

26:42 they want to like what their perspective

26:45 is on this

26:46 got it stefan how about you i think for

26:48 me because my experience these days is

26:50 mostly with data centers i'm really

26:52 looking forward to the exciting session

26:54 on leveraging automation uh for reliable

26:56 data center operations

26:58 yeah that'll be a great one zeus

27:01 uh well obviously ai apps one i think is

27:03 gonna be really exciting as well it's

27:05 it's it's oriented to this concept of

27:07 experience versus networking but the

27:09 other one i'm really working with is 5g

27:11 i think 5g is a fundamentally different

27:14 type of wireless network it's going to

27:15 change our lives in ways that we don't

27:17 even know yet so i'm excited to see

27:19 what's happened there

27:21 so so for me i'll take it turn it

27:23 answering this question it's actually

27:24 rami section which is going to kick us

27:26 off because it's a view from the ceo's

27:28 office and yes it's about juniper to

27:30 some extent but really it's about what

27:31 all companies should be thinking about

27:33 and things like attracting and retaining

27:34 talent and navigating a company through

27:36 uncertainty

27:37 of a pandemic and of inflation and the

27:40 power of ai

27:41 i think it will give everyone a view

27:43 into what their c-suite and their board

27:45 of directors are thinking which is

27:47 always really valuable so this session

27:49 is always the best right so yes

27:55 he always says great so maybe i cheated

27:56 by picking him yeah

27:58 definitely he's also our ceo so um

28:02 so so thank you zeus newport stefan it's

28:05 always great to speak with you i'm

28:07 looking forward to connecting with

28:08 everyone on may 11th at the juniper

28:10 summit check the comments check the

28:11 outro for how to register if you haven't

28:13 already uh have a great day we'll see

28:15 you next week

28:16 thank you

28:17 thank you

28:18 thank you

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