Maximizing the 5G Opportunity: Trailblazing for the next decade of services

0:05 hello so we're here to talk about mobile

0:07 networks from 5g i'm with the juniper

0:09 network cto

0:10 raj yavatka great to see you raj

0:14 i guess first of all could you just give

0:16 us your view on

0:17 you know how would you assess the

0:18 progress in in 5g so far

0:22 so i think the 5g infrastructure

0:24 spending and the rollouts are happening

0:27 sooner than expected in my opinion uh

0:30 one of the

0:30 major things that 5g is changing in my

0:32 opinion is that unlike

0:34 3g 4g networks which were really fueled

0:37 by

0:38 growth of smartphones and internet

0:40 streaming

0:41 the 5g is really becoming the heart of

0:44 the internet

0:45 because of the low latency high

0:46 bandwidth uh

0:48 capacity that it provides and that's why

0:50 we are seeing

0:51 lots of interest in accelerating the 5g

0:55 infrastructure i think one of the things

0:57 i'll

0:58 always like to point out that the 5g is

1:00 changing

1:01 everything in terms of what i call it is

1:04 bringing about completion of distance

1:07 between

1:08 delivery of service and consumption of

1:10 the service that's going to

1:12 unlock unforeseen usages that we have

1:14 not even expected

1:16 yeah yeah i really like that that idea

1:18 that it compresses distance in that way

1:21 um another i was kind of keen to just

1:22 get your thoughts on do you think we're

1:24 at the point where we can start thinking

1:25 about

1:26 5g as a kind of a network platform

1:29 something that that other people can

1:30 come innovate and

1:31 and make money on absolutely i think

1:34 there are two

1:34 areas where that's happening in my

1:36 opinion and the private enterprise hajj

1:39 that particular use case is getting lots

1:41 of attention because unlike wi-fi which

1:43 doesn't provide you

1:45 quality of service for use cases and

1:48 applications like smart

1:50 manufacturing smart retail smart

1:53 distribution centers

1:55 uh people want to provide 5g cbrs

1:58 spectrum is freely available

2:00 based on the service that can be

2:02 guaranteed

2:03 in some ways so that's one thing that's

2:06 really

2:06 bringing about a new change the second

2:08 is i think in the consumer space

2:10 because of the low latency high

2:12 bandwidth and what i call the completion

2:13 of distance

2:14 that you are bringing the distance

2:15 between service

2:18 hosting and service consumption to

2:20 milliseconds

2:21 uh tens of milliseconds uh new usages of

2:24 cloud

2:24 gaming in event uh in person

2:27 real time experiences vr yeah those kind

2:30 of things are happening

2:31 so that's another thing that's really a

2:33 new change with respect to 5g

2:35 to make it a network platform because

2:37 now you have applications and usages

2:39 being brought about by third parties

2:42 using an open architecture

2:43 i think the open radio access network

2:45 architecture that also service providers

2:47 are pushing

2:48 is exactly designed for that make it a

2:50 platform

2:51 so you can provide lots of different

2:53 types of services

2:54 that can be monetized easily both in the

2:57 enterprise space as well as consumer

2:59 space

3:00 and so i think that that that's a great

3:02 vision where would you say we're out in

3:03 terms of the

3:04 you know you actively involved in

3:06 network designs or these designs already

3:08 being deployed

3:09 you know as we speak what kind of phase

3:11 are we at so network designs are

3:13 changing

3:14 this is the first time we are seeing

3:15 that there's a big change in network

3:17 architecture

3:18 for multiple reasons one is that

3:20 hyperscalers have really shown the rest

3:22 of the industry

3:23 how to deliver infrastructure at a large

3:25 scale at a fraction of a cost

3:28 because of the investment they made

3:29 operational automation

3:31 being able to deliver services or

3:34 software

3:35 release it continuously and integrate

3:37 continuously

3:38 that has made a big difference and they

3:40 also created large-scale distributed

3:42 systems based on microservices

3:44 so now the service providers are

3:45 applying all those principles of cloud

3:47 native architecture disaggregation

3:50 and reciprocal system to the 5g network

3:52 design

3:53 and that's something new that's

3:54 happening actively as we speak

3:57 that's a big change marketing yeah yeah

4:00 and what so

4:01 what what are the implications then of i

4:03 guess this kind of disaggregated and

4:05 open network for uh

4:06 for an end-to-end service and i guess

4:08 when we think about

4:09 mobile networks typically we would go

4:11 ran core transport as the primary

4:13 domains but also now of course it's the

4:15 cloud domain as well is another

4:17 dimension into it

4:20 how does that all come together as an

4:21 end-to-end kind of service that

4:23 i mean ultimately i guess we don't even

4:25 maybe notice to carry us there

4:26 if it's good enough yeah that's right i

4:29 think that everyone has to now take

4:31 end to end view of the entire university

4:33 like you said packet goes on public

4:35 cloud

4:35 some uh workforce on public cloud radio

4:38 access network is spanning core and

4:41 transport

4:42 so at juniper for example for wi-fi with

4:44 our missed product we have taken a cloud

4:46 to

4:47 client connectivity paradigm which is

4:50 the endpoint view of the network

4:51 similar thing we have to apply here

4:53 which means you have to start thinking

4:55 of security

4:56 because when you open up network this is

4:58 disaggregated there are different

5:00 components coming from different

5:01 providers

5:02 the security becomes very important

5:04 aspect because you have to protect

5:06 against spoofing

5:08 content theft right denial of service

5:10 attacks

5:11 you also have to take an end-to-end

5:12 service view in terms of slicing

5:14 because now you can't simply say i'll

5:16 slice the radio access network

5:18 give slices to different usages based on

5:20 different quality of service

5:21 the slice has to now expand across

5:24 relative access network

5:25 core transport and even public cloud and

5:28 you have to provide endpoint slicing

5:30 and finally i think all of this requires

5:33 investment in automation operational

5:35 automation because when you take an

5:36 internet view

5:37 you're not going to control all the

5:38 aspects yourself the different

5:40 components coming from different parts

5:41 of the network network design

5:43 so having operational automation

5:45 automation in day 0 day 1 day 2

5:47 operations

5:48 is going to be very important one of the

5:49 things we have done with our paragon

5:51 automation suite we are taking the life

5:53 cycle view of the automation

5:55 starting from network design capacity

5:58 planning

5:58 to deployment continuous releases and

6:01 operations

6:02 we are trying to apply our automation

6:04 everywhere similar end-to-end view of

6:06 the network design has to be

6:08 taken yeah yeah i i really liked your

6:10 your comment now cloud to

6:12 cloud to client i think you said

6:15 it's interesting isn't it there's some

6:17 good sort of knowledge in the industry

6:19 from

6:20 i think you mentioned miss but various

6:21 other domains where there is a lot of

6:23 automation

6:24 and and control and we can kind of bring

6:25 that into telco but also into mobile i

6:28 guess which is what we're really talking

6:29 about exactly

6:30 yeah what mr shown is that because of

6:32 client to cover

6:33 cloud connectivity and cloud-based

6:35 management they have been able to create

6:37 self-remediation and self-healing

6:39 networks

6:40 literally 90 of the troubleshooting

6:43 tickets

6:44 get automatically resolved the operator

6:46 never has to look at it

6:47 opportunity is there to apply that to

6:49 the private 5g networks and also the

6:50 end-to-end vehicle

6:52 that's a bigger question okay then just

6:55 so close with you know you talk about

6:56 technology but when we have these

6:57 different actors in a service

7:00 model what are you seeing in terms of

7:03 of business models and obviously there's

7:05 you know everyone's got to come out on

7:07 top

7:08 yeah you know the technology companies

7:10 like yourselves but the operators the

7:12 cloud providers the application

7:14 companies how's all that kind of working

7:17 itself out

7:18 i think this is the most interesting

7:20 aspect of the

7:21 5g uh deployment in my opinion because

7:23 there's four different things happening

7:25 one is

7:26 because of private 5g the service

7:28 providers are no longer just the big

7:30 private providers

7:31 rather than being big pipe providers

7:33 they can actually monetize services that

7:35 they can offer

7:37 using private enterprise 5g smart

7:39 manufacturing smart retail all of these

7:41 applications the second is we see

7:44 increased collaboration

7:45 cooperation between hyperscalers and

7:47 service providers

7:48 for juniper these are both our customers

7:50 we want both of them to be successful

7:52 so we want to bring about that

7:54 collaboration

7:55 but still people are not figured out

7:57 where when you're sharing models and how

7:58 the pie is going to be divided between

8:00 hyper skills and

8:03 i think the third thing is the aura the

8:05 open radio access network

8:07 disaggregates everything that means now

8:09 the different components

8:10 applications x apps radio intelligence

8:13 controller

8:14 uh central unit distribution

8:16 distribution unit radio unit can come

8:18 from different parts of the ecosystem

8:20 that creates a new business model

8:21 because now people different people can

8:23 bring not only

8:25 agility and faster movement of features

8:28 but they also get to

8:29 share in their business model they can

8:31 start charging for it

8:32 that's another bit and the last one i

8:34 think that is which is really important

8:36 is that

8:37 with the convergence of fixed and

8:38 wireless networks

8:40 plus wi-fi 6 happening and now with 5g

8:43 enterprise 5g coming in service

8:46 providers now have

8:47 new business opportunities to offer

8:49 converse

8:50 enterprise access and networking to

8:52 private enterprises across all these

8:54 things fix

8:56 wireless as well as five five six as

8:58 well as 5g

8:59 and that creates a new business

9:00 opportunity in my opinion

9:03 great answer raj i think i can concur on

9:05 on all of those points

9:06 raj from juniper thanks very much thank

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